It’s a measure of our times of political transition that the debate about Pancasila as state identity (dasar negara) continues even after President Yudhoyono’s reaffirmation of the precepts as the “fundamental basis of our national life” on June 1, 2006, at the 61st anniversary of the birth of Pancasila speech proclaimed by the late President Soekarno on June 1, 1945, a few months before Indonesia’s declaration of independence on August 17, 1945. President Yudhoyono emphasized the need to fulfill the basic consensus since 1945: Pancasila, the 1945 Constitution, The Unitary State of Indonesia, Diversity in Unity.
Some Islamist groups had alarmed minority and non-Islamic communities with their fervent call for a stricter adherence to a more Islamic precept of social, economic and political life by pushing for an all-encompassing official restriction on “amoral and lewd” behavior, giving rise to fears that other communities will have to be subjected to legal norms contravening their respective personal and public code of conduct. Several regional governments have issued edicts applying shariah law for public behavior. The Ministry of Home Affairs is reviewing some of these edicts, which may directly contravene basic provisions of the Indonesian Constitution of 1945.
The Declaration on Indonesian-ness (Maklumat Ke-Indonesiaan) which was read in front of President Yudhoyono and cabinet ministers on the June 1, 2006, anniversary celebrations recently drew reaction from a member of the Indonesian Council of Ulama (Majelis Ulama Indonesia), who derided the petitioners of Indonesian-ness as being “overly fearful of Islam” and in danger of propounding “outright secularism nationalism.”
The fact of the matter is that Soekarno on June 1, 1945, affirmed that Indonesia’s state identity was not overly secular (as in India), nor was it strictly theocratic (as in Saudi Arabia). Soekarno had appealed to Islamic participants in the Preparatory Committee to Prepare Indonesian Independence to accept the fact that the Indonesian state was to be established based on “an agreement on fundamentals” by all ethnic, racial, provincial as well as religious groups across the former Netherlands Indies who had fought for founding the Indonesian Republic. Soekarno also emphasized that there is an enduring “mythical unity” in the consciousness of all Indonesians that pluralism was an important feature of “being Indonesian”. Nationalist, Islamist and all other beliefs and faiths would be united through a “sublime union of all Indonesians.”
Being an Indonesian Muslim, therefore, necessitates a wider and more tolerant _expression of one’s sense of being Indonesian with all its rich impulses arising from family, ethnicity, provincial identity, racial heritage and the “enrichment of Islam through understanding the beliefs and and precepts of other faiths.” Throughout Muslim Indonesia, therefore, there are diverse interpretations of precepts, of application and indeed of rituals among Javanese (Central and East Java) just as there would be variations among Sundanese, Minangkabau/Padang, Makassar and Bugis as indeed among Acehnese themselves. Likewise with Indonesian Protestantism (Batak Church, Baptist, Methodist) and significant though less pronounced variations of Catholicism, Budhism, Hinduism, as well as Confucianism. Eclectism and syncretism were the keys to healthy pluralism and mutual tolerance.
It is also important to remember that Indonesia, though the country with largest number of Muslims” is not “an Islamic state”, a distinction clearly made when Indonesia was accepted as a member of the Organization of Islamic Conference. (Indonesians take note of the fact that the OIC was never set up as an organization in which each state had implanted the Islamic faith as its sole basis of state identity).
In the event, the recent debates resurfaced on the question of emphasis. Non-Muslims and minority groups adherence to the “plurality and tolerant values” is seen as affirming the need to remind Islamist groups of the origins of Indonesian identity; Islamist groups, on the other hand, perceive increase of “market globalization, secularization and loss of moral values” as encroachments on their notion of ” the central message of Islam, which is social justice ” for the vast majority who remain poor and desperate” and to which Islam “provide outreach and solace.”
Doubtless the debates on these issues will be discussed in the upcoming International Conference of Islamic Scholars (ICIS) in Jakarta, June 20-21, which will be officially opened by President Yudhoyono at the Jakarta Convention Center. My own feeling is that the rehashing of philosophical and values debates urgently need to be followed on by something more tangible on the ground. Inter-faith dialogues, including matters relating to “Islam-West relations”, have had considerable play in many forums across the Middle East, North America, Europe and Asia.
How about following up these dialogue forums with “projects on inter-faith employment” funded jointly by Islamic and Western multilateral aid agencies and donor governments. After all, when all the debates and discussions are said and done, what young people especially poor Muslims across the developing world__ really need are jobs, jobs, jobs. Jobs will to retain their sense of identity and regain their dignity. Employment will readily reduce their sense of humiliation and enhance their sense of individual self-worth.
Pak Menhan ngeblog…hebat, akan lebih hebat lagi kalo komen-nya dibebaskan. Sekarang musimnya kebebasan pak! Sesuai dengan sila kedua: Kebebasan yang adil dan beradab 🙂
setuju banget,komen tidak perlu moderasi, ok. Hayo siapa yang akan menyusul bapak mentri ini.
Yang harus diperjuangkan hendaknya sikap hidup islam (berserah diri pd Tuhan, adil, ikhlas) bukan negara Islam. Sukses pak!!
Gunakan Bahasa Indonesia sebagai bahasa blog Bapak. untuk apa jadi mentri yang mewakili indonesia tapi pake bahasa Inggris ?!. Dimana Semboyan “Berbahasa satu, Bahasa Indonesia” ??
halo pak, selamat ngeblog. hanya sekedar bertanya, apakah ideologi Pancasila bisa mencegah KKN?
I think Pancasila is still relevant, because we live in diversity. But in the other hand, more and more people worry about demoralization issue, and the relate it with creating more religious identity for our nation.
In fact, we are already a religious nation, we can look at sila I ” Ketuhanan Yang Maha Esa” . So In My Humble Opinion, there is nothing wrong with Pancasila, but we have to make it on the ground.
kalau bisa dijadikan bilingual, soalnya gak semua orang Indonesia bisa bahasa Inggris.
Duh, seneng deh ada bapak menteri nulis blog… en klo boleh usul nih pak, blognya dibikin 2 bahasa, soalnya, orang-orang kayak saya blom paham2 banget bahasa inggris, hehe…
Dear Pak Juwono,
It is you who sit in the first row of our nation direction. I prefer to have a strict and powerful government to rule indonesia. This is a BIG Country, a MOST democratic nation with a (relatively) low education people.
Don’t be too late, our country has been in a (negative) common in resolving things. Reactive instead of proactive.. Things like terorism threat, once being rejected from our leader in house claiming there is no such terorrist thread in our nation, etc..Today, i don’t hear any comment from him regarding the wanted terorism while it might be stopped at the first hand.
Threat of Pancasila, which is state identity of our country, should be taken out seriously whether it is big or small.. That is the reason why we still have Indonesia today,and of course in the future for your first GrandChild and my first son.
That is also the reason why Im still live in Indonesia, contributing my skills – develop Indonesian reputation on my own way. I believe Indonesia future is so bright, if we understand, defends and agree on the state of nation.
I agree with you that Indonesia is not an Islamic state, it is also why Central Government need to control and determine how the regional governments act and issued such law that might impact on their region. Implementaiton of ‘shariah law’ itself is good as long as it bring positive impact for the citizen, however there are constraint and justification that need to be associated with the basic provosions of the Indonesian Constitution of 1945.
If the Government themselves, had forgotten the basic provosions, we dont need to find a reason why there are a lot of separatism, terorism, low patriotism among youth, disintegration,etc coming our way.
Pak, let’s secure the basic things, do the right thing and the things right… and together, we will gain the wealth and help the poor regain their dignity.
For your first grand child and my first son.
ps : I don’t mind of using English, we live in international world, and this is internet .. Hopefully people all over the world read your blogs and concern, so that they will create jobs-jobs-jobs instead of warn-warn-warn
:o)
It is also important to remember that Indonesia, though the country with largest number of Muslims” is not “an Islamic state”
Hohoho.. YUpz.. Setttujjjuuhh..
Blognya bole jg nih pak.. 😉
btw, spreadHead , kalo gini orang yang nganggep Indonesia negara teroris (padahal gak bisa basa Indo) bisa ngeh juga tuh bab Indonesia.
Dibikin dwi bahasa aja , pak..
Hehehe..
*tambah repot lagi nih..*
Pak, ini mungkin agak tidak nyambung, selama ini saya amati Pancasila terasa diwajibkan untuk dipakai sebagai pandangan hidup penduduk Indonesia. Apa ini tidak salah?
Walaupun nilai-nilai Pancasila sangat baik dan mulia, menentukan pandangan hidup itu kan sesuatu yang sangat personal dan pribadi, dan saya rasa semua orang memiliki kebebasan untuk menentukan jalan hidupnya sendiri. Saat ini terkesan kalau kita tidak menerapkan Pancasila dalam kehidupan sehari-hari, berarti penjahat.
Saya sendiri pak, kok lebih melihat Pancasila sebagai landasan dalam penyelenggaraan negara? Bukan dalam penyelenggaraan kehidupan pribadi. Apakah tidak sebaiknya fungsi Pancasila kembali diperjelas sehingga tidak menimbulkan antipati terhadapnya?
Right on,Pak! It’s sad to know that our government is proposing RUU Anti-Pornografi & Pornoaksi–which has the potential danger of oppressing HAM– when there are still other urgent matters left untackled. One example is ‘ketertiban lalu lintas’. All I see in the streets are banners “suggesting” to behave in orderly fashion when using the roads, but they’re useless unless the law enact them.
Bapak Menteri….senangnya ada sarana berkomunikasi seperti ini :)…tapi blognya diupdate terus kan ya pak..
Bicara soal Pancasila..saya jadi teringat masa-masa di sekolah dasar dulu…di mana saya sebagai siswa membaca Pancasila setiap pagi sebelum pelajaran dimulai…saya dan teman-teman juga hapal betul berapa jumlah sayap dan ekor burung Garuda…hapal butir-butir Pancasila…bahkan sampai-sampai dulu juga ada lomba cerdas cermat P4 pak…..rasanya jadi “dekat” sekali dengan falsafah negara kita…
Tapi..setelah beranjak dewasa..kuliah…udah lupa semua pak…menyebutkan sila-silanya saja barangkali harus berpikir dua kali…hehehe…..padahal klo’ diresapi benar-benar…nilai-nilai Pancasila luar biasa ya pak…kok bisa ya para pendiri negara ini dulu memikirkan itu semua..prosesnya gak mudah kan ya pak..apalagi sampai menentukan urutan sila-silanya….
klo memang bisa kembali “menyatukan” bangsa dan negara ini di bawah keperkasaan Burung Garuda dan Pancasila….kenapa tidak di perkenalkan lagi seperti dulu pak…….biar bangsa ini lebih nasionalis 🙂 terutama generasi mudanya….
tapi pak..saya mau tanya nih..sila nomor 1 masih Ketuhanan Yang Maha Esa kan ya pak…bukan “Keuangan Yang Maha Kuasa” kan yaaa….
Jobs will to retain their sense of identity and regain their dignity. Employment will readily reduce their sense of humiliation and enhance their sense of individual self-worth.
setuju!!!
Ideologi pancasila cukup berhasil untuk menangkal ideologi komunisme tapi sayang sekali tidak cukup ampuh menangkal penyakit korupsi dan tidak ampuh menahan badai liberalisme yg merusak moral bangsa…… Sayang sekali…..
wah pak mentri hebat bikin bLog,,,kLo juga mentri2 yg Laen nyusuL,,,,,jdi biar ada komunikasi sama rakyat jelata,walau tudak langsung,,
,,setuju kLo bisa dwi bahasa ,,kasihan orang desa yang ga paham bahasa inggris,,,seperti saya ini,,,
“sIt is also important to remember that Indonesia, though the country with largest number of Muslims” is not “an Islamic state”
I agree with you Sir.
“President Yudhoyono emphasized the need to fulfill the basic consensus since 1945: Pancasila, the 1945 Constitution, The Unitary State of Indonesia, Diversity in Unity.”
It is a globalisation time. I found out that lately, Indonesia is dominated by those people who’s trying to change Indo’s as a fully Muslim Country. I am concern about that. Honestly.
Where’s the Unity in Diversity has gone to? Where’s all the tolerance, respect, and helping among religions has gone to?
I cannot see the point why Indonesian citizen started to being racist to one another. I cannot see why we can’t protect things that we’ve been proud to have as a friendly citizen that helping each other. Really-really UNITY IN DIVERSITY…
I see it from my point of view. Why do we have to have Pancasila, Bhinneka Tunggal Ika, and even the Sumpah Pemuda thing if we CANNOT APPLY IT TO OUR DAILY LIFE?
I miss the time when INDONESIAN CITIZEN RESPECTING EACH OTHER NO MATTER WHAT THEY’RE RELIGION, ETHNIC, and BACKGROUND.
Many people started to blame the Government for what happened in Indonesia lately. I think a nation cannot progress if the citizen only demanding from their Government.
Citizen and Government HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE THE GOAL.
I am glad to know that you have your own blog. In ENGLISH as well. I am proud of it. This is my first time visiting here. I think I will visit here more often.
This is the time we can prove it once again, that we can apply all the Pancasila and UNITY IN DIVERSITY thing in our daily life. That things not made to be taught in school as the part of history than Indonesian threw it out of their mind as if it’s nothing..
So, why don’t we start to working together to make Indonesia a better place to live? Not from the Gov’t side only, but from every single layer of community in Indonesia.
Good luck.
God bless Indonesia…
Pak Menteri,
It’s a great feeling to be able to communicate with government. There are so many ideas that can be shared alongside with us. Hopefully, Pak Menteri will gain a lot from this blog and other people may want to share great ideas, support, thoughts, etc.
I believe Pancasila is still the right fundamental guidance to unite the whole states of Indonesia. Keep reducing the social gap and the lack of knowledge and information may well be a second big thing.
I also believe that Indonesia should be more and more active in the world’s communication than ever before. It will help the bargaining position when negotiating with the other countries if we have options or alternatives that’s been made.
The Islamic and Western need to communicate more often about being different. On the other hand, Indonesia as the biggest muslim world can be the communicator. That can be a great advantage (economically) if we can use that position to gain Indonesian exports.
Last thing I believe is government should score high in economy to reduce unemployment. As some say, the winner will keep winning and improve, the losing team will break until they achieve a win for confidence. I hope it can help.
Commentnya jangan di bebaskan pak ,perlu di moderator soalnya lama lama commandnya nanti akan jadi Ajang spam (gak mungkin kan di turunkan angkatan laut darat dan udara untuk ngejar ngejar spamer ) .Dan Alangkah indahnya Bila Bapak menggunakan BHS INDONESIA di blog bapak karena kami juga yakin bapak udah mahir dengan English English an tapi rakyat di bawah bapak masih belom semuanya tau English English an yah kalo Bisa bilingual ajah pak 😀 .Atau kalo bole BHS Indonesia aja pak
saya adalah salah satu dari generasi muda yang seperti temen-temen di atas, Pak, yang rindu Pancasila dan rasa kebangsaan. Tapi gimana ya Pak, mengemas rasa kebangsaan itu agar tidak “berasa orde baru” banget. Masalahnya masyarakat kita saat ini masih sangat “parno” ama yang namanya Pancasila dan orde baru. Padahal yang terkandung dan ingin disampaikan dalam Pancasila kan termasuk menghargai perbedaan ga cuma kewajiban di atas hak pribadi kan ya Pak?
In english fine, Bhs Indonesia juga boleh, buat belajar bahasa biar cepet mahir.
– I have learned from Oracle for practising my relationships with other people, the more number and complex the constraints and referentials of a table, the harder for Me to interact with it but once they are valid the only matter is just the timely-fashioned records (memories) …….. The same way can be applied to Love, Life and Career ……
– The first level of a religious life is when a person has a religion and practise it in his/her daily life consistently. The second level of a religious life is when a person has become one heart, one mind, one body and one soul with the religion. And the third level (the highest level) of a religious life is when a person doesnt have a word of “religion” on his/her mind but he/she can still get understand any of the religions’ idea, wisdoms and good lessons exist in this world, give the best things of him/her for helping people and struggling for human dignity, life and mankind …………….
– Promise is A Promise …….
Pak Juwono yang saya hormati,
Menurut saya, sekarang memang sedang terjadi ‘perbenturan kebudayaan’, demikian format yang sukses diciptakan golongan tertentu dari luar dan menggunakan ‘jasa’ orang Indonesia sendiri. Siapakah mereka golongan itu? Pemodal besar asing, pak.
Dengan 1001 dalih, demi keuntungan usaha mereka (dan keserakahan), mereka gunakan model pemerintahan yang opresif dengan menciptakan hantu baru seperti kata terorisme, hak sasi manusia, menebar kebencian dan rasa takut.
Sebagai bangsa besar, 400 suku bangsa dan 200 dialek dan tersebar di ribuan pulau, maka Indonesia menjadi sasaran empuk mereka yang sudah berhasil mengkooptasi pemerintah asing dimana mereka dirikan usahanya.
Bapak sebagai pakar ilmu sospol, tentunya memiliki kepekaan ini. Bahwa, waspada terhadap segala isu yang ‘tiba-tiba muncul’, memang perlu diwaspadai.
Saya cinta bangsa dan negara ini, sama besarnya dengan semua orang Inodnesia.
Bangsa Indonesia memiliki kelebihan dibandingkan warga dunia lainnya: tebalnya kebangsaan. Ini modal yang amat disadari amat sulit ditembus pemodal besar asing, sehingga mereka menggunakan metoda lain dengan merusak dari dalam melalui mantra-mantra baru: pornografi, pasar bebas, dan globalisasi.
Kita sekali lagi jangan terperdaya.
Pak menteri, kok sekarang kita susah banget dapetin lagu-lagu kebangsaan, ya.
Bener deh pak, saya curiga semua isu ini dihembuskan kapitalis asing sebagai jalan memutar untuk menguasai Indonesia.
Salam.
Dear Pak Juwono,
Menurut saya, masalahnya adalah selama ini bangsa Indonesia tidak pernah benar-benar menemukan figur yang ‘Pancasilais’. Pancasila bagi saya adalah sesuatu yang masih terkesan utopia.
actually i prefer the comments being moderated as there are many people in cyber world abused anonymity.
free of speech yes, but some people just have no respect to the blog owner.
Pak, keep it up! english is perfectly fine, but 2 version would be better 🙂
The obvious danger in a heterogeneous country like Indonesia is “tyranny over the minority by the majority”.
That is why the road to an Islamic state in Indonesia would mean the breakup of Indonesia. Do the Balinese and Bataks want to follow laws – such as the anti pornography laws – that restrict their way of living? I don’t think so.
Hopefully, though, the majority of broadminded Indonesians will see the danger before it is too late.
But what I can’t understand is that given the dangers of the APP law, why is it that the supposedly nationalist Golkar Party supports the APP bill? Do they want to see Indonesia break up? What is going on?
Regards.
Pancasila’is atau cuma memperdebatkan ttg pancasila!?
Bahasa Indonesia mungkin akan lebih merakyat Pak…
Blog bagus Pak Menteri.
Saya setuju komentar dimoderasi, asal jangan memoderasi kontennya (misalnya jika ‘melawan’ isi artikel bapak). Komentar dimoderasi untuk menjaga keindahan blog.
Saya saran menggunakan bahasa Indonesia saja pak.
“Some Islamist groups had alarmed minority and non-Islamic communities ….. public code of conduct.”
Though I don’t agree with the act of ‘alarming’ others, I think these groups’ main concern is to protect public morals (considering that law enforcement is not strictly forced). Their way of doing it is -I agree- not elegant, nor acceptable, but it doesn’t mean the message they carry is absolutely wrong. Don’t you think?
Do something with our law enforcement, please. Let these groups see that our law takes care of all the wrongdoings. I’m sure nobody will act like John Wayne anymore…
Oh, congrats on your grandchild, Pak! 🙂
“…affirmed that Indonesia’s state identity was not overly secular (as in India), nor was it strictly theocratic (as in Saudi Arabia).”
Even though the Indian Constitution clearly states that India is a Secular, Democractic, Socialist country, but the secularism being practiced here in India is totally different from the secularism that has been defined and practiced in, say, Turkey or France (separation between state and religion).
Secularism in India is, I can say, more or less the same as secularism in Indonesia through Pancasila (pluralism). Amartya Sen (The Argumentative Indian) gives ample explanation on this matter.
Quoting him, Secularism in India is defined as the “neutrality [by the State] between different religions” rather than “prohibition of religious associations in state activities”. (p.19)
So to say that “Indonesia’s state identity was not overly secular (as in India), nor was it strictly theocratic (as in Saudi Arabia).” is, in my opinion, a total neglect to the fact that Indian secularism is based on the history of the acceptance of religious heterodoxy (pluralism).
Indian secularism is similar to Indonesian secularism through Pancasila.
PS. Keep blogging Mr. Minister!
Pak Sudarsono, please keep this wonderful blog in English. So, everybody will be motivated to learn more about English to understand your articles. It is true that Indonesian is our national language. However, wouldn’t it be better if all Indonesian people are bilingual? Being bilingual, we will be more able to meet the competition with other nations. Viva Indonesia!!!
nah INI baru bapak menteri kita mau berbagi lewat blog
koweorang bole djoewa itoe poenja toelisan, aken tapi achier2 inih ik tengok koweorang poenja fikiran djao lebi militair dibandingken samah orang militair sendirih itoepoen. Ada apah dengen koweorang ?
Mitsalken tentang itoe UU resia negarah, itoe matjem Patriot Act sahadja di itoe keradja’an Amerika Sjarikat poen.
@mariskova:
I agree with you. Most of the recent social unrests are triggered by weak law enforcement and lack of government attention on morality values among its people. Although I never agree with the way they vent their feeling, but I agree with them that the government has not done enough to address the problem.
I also think that the word “pluralism” has been abused. Crime, drugs, pornography, gamble, are not the part of pluralism. For example, if some people allowed gambling as part of their culture, should the government let them do it? I don’t think so. Bad habbits should be erased, right? Let’s see another example. Aceh people used to eat cannabis leaves as a common vegetables. Will the government allow them to grow cannabis on their field? I doubt it.
So, I think pluralism is not about tollerating everything.
Mempertanyakan ideologi Pancasila dan Perdebatan tentang idiologi agama sebagai landasan idiologi bangsa, semakin marak dewasa ini. Sejumlah elemen masyarakat yang mengatasnamakan agama tertentu merasa paling benar dalam menyampaikan ide-idenya.
Kemudian kita dikejutkan dengan munculnya wacana pembagian tugas Presiden dan Wapres dalam kerangka sistem parlementer, semakin menambah keruh suasana sosial politik ditanah air ini.
Disaat bangsa Indonesia sedang berduka oleh serangkaian bencana yang menimpa negeri ini, ada saja segelintir orang yang tega mengangkat isu politik ini, demi kepentingan kelompoknya.
Ribut-ribut Ideologi syariat agama tertentu dan Pro kontra sistem presidensiil dan parlementer sudah lama berlangsung sejak tahun 1940-50an, dimasa itu bangsa kita terus menerus mengalami bongkar pasang sistem politik, ujung-ujungnya yang menderita akibat konflik politik adalah rakyat juga. Apakah hal ini harus terulang kembali?, kapan bangsa ini akan fokus pada pembangunan dan segera menuntaskan permasalahan sosial ekonomi yang kian hari semakin membuat jumlah rakyat miskin bertambah banyak, lalu kapan bangsa ini bangkit dari keterpurukan yang tidak menentu.
Tolonglah kepada elit politik untuk sadar dan terbuka hati nuraninya, agar lebih memperhatikan kepentingan rakyat Indonesia yang masih berada dibawah garis kemiskinan, mereka butuh penghidupan yang layak, keadilan sosial dan jaminan masa depan lebih baik. Mereka tidak lagi peduli dengan sistem politik yang terbaik bagi mereka, kita butuh perbaikan kehidupan kearah yang lebih baik.
Hentikan salah kaprah demokrasi ini sekarang juga, sebelum terlambat. Saya tidak rela apabila negara yang dibangun dengan cucuran air mata dan darah nenek moyang kita, akan tercerai berai tanpa arti.
Selamat Yaaa Pak… Blognya bagus…. ini baru Mentri… yang mau berbagi blog.. dan kalau bisa.. ini hanya sekedar saran Pak… alangkah lebih sempurnanya blog Bapak ini menggunakan dua bahasa… mungkin atau lebih…. tepi… kalau bisa… bahasa INDONESIA PAK… makasih… sebelumnya…
Hwaaa, ini baru MENTRI! Mana nih mentri yang lain?
Pak, mumpung bapak diatas, dan punya power, tolong bikin gebrakan hebat (selain ngeblog) demi kejayaan Indonesia.
Islam garis keras, udah jelas mereka mau MENGGANTI UUD 45 dan PANCASILA dengan syariat versi pemahaman mereka, kok dibiarkan? Mumpung punya power Pak! Segera ditindak lanjuti dong orang-orang itu, setiap hari mereka merekrut kader-kader baru yang anti Pancasila, kader-kader fanatik dan intoleran yang meng-KAFIR kan golongan lain, sampai kapan akan DIBIARKAN?
Sekarang sudah banyak agen-agen perpecahan itu yang duduk di pemerintahan, dan mulai bikin perda-perda “Anti Bhineka Ttunggal Ika”… Perpecahan sudah didepan mata Pak!!!
Mannaa Sense of Urgencynyaaa ?
I agree with comment pornography and pornoaction is not part of pluralism.
Islamic group with majority only 75% (politically said more 87%) has no more right
to push their law, it will only effectivefly apply for Moslem group theirselves.
RUU APP is still relevant for our country if only it can be applied to all group
and based not only on certain religion.
Religion is a way of life that choosen by good will of each person. It becomes a problem when that way of life, using power acquired from political role, being enforced & ‘legalized’ to all society.
For example, if i believe that being a vegetarian is good for my healthy, that is a ‘way of life’ for me and only for me. But, what if I have political power, using my political influence, endorse my belief to all society using political tools or so-call ‘law’?
Guess what will happen to the rest of society ?!
Pancasila, is the reason why we still have Indonesia in Google Earth until today.. :o) That is one of masterpiece that become a hot topic for international world when the founders of this country introduce it… We should be proud of it, and defends it.
Maaf Pak, saya belum posting soal tulisan Bapak. Saya masih surprise Pak Menteri sempet bikin blog! Ini angin baru yang segar untuk bikin negeri ini lebih demokratis, toh Presiden juga udah buka website.
Just keep writing.. Rakyat akan seneng jika pemimpinnya deket terus dan bisa dihubungi. Yang Bapak lakukan dengan membuat blog ini adalah ‘Giant Step’.
Go ahead, Pak Menteri.. Saya akan senang maen ke sini 🙂
saya seneng bgt, ada mentri yg mau nge-blog. tambah deket rasanya.
maaf mau nanya, periode depan, bapak nyalon presiden nggak?
“Gie”
Aceh people used to eat cannabis leaves as a common vegetables. Will the government allow them to grow cannabis on their field? I doubt it.
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it is crime!
using hot pants is a crime to if RUU APP runs ???
waah sangat tidak Pancasila.
Saling menghargai, saling mengerti atas perbedaan. Menghargai bahwa tidak akan menggunakan hot pants ke masjid atau gereja. Dan berarti harus menghargai kekuatan wanita untuk mencari nafkah di luar rumah demi mengartikan kehidupan bagi dirinya sendiri dan keluarganya.
Haruskah dibatasi karena tidak dianjurkan oleh salah satu agama yang kebetulan mayoritas?
Pancasila jelas-jelas mengakomodasi perbedaan yang ada di masyarakat, dengan butir-butirnya yang saat SD dulu kita hampir-hampir hafal luar kepala.
Lalu mengapa kebebasan berpendapat menjadi penghalang bagi saling mengerti dan menghargai?
Pak dukung apa di Piala Dunia…? Oh ya..hebat neh…sekarang banyak pejabat yg ikut ngeblog…jadi tidak hanya bertemu Pak SBY di istana tapi juga di dunia maya….kalau di dunia blog..Pak SBY itu sebagai Presiden atau Teman Blog..?
Interesting that indcoup mentioned about “tyranny of the majority”. Over Soeharto’s time, we have experienced the opposite – “tyranny of the minority”, and it was very bad.
Both should not happen.
Along with time, another thing is certain – there exist a huge amount of distrust between muslim and non-muslim.
Therefore, I agree heartily with Pak Juwono’s idea of inter-faith dialogue. And this should be implemented as widely as possible – down to kelurahan (or less) level if possible.
Much of the problems can be cleared when there’s good communication between parties.
Then we’ll be able to start working together to weed out the extremists from all sides, and start living together happily.
btw; I don’t mind that this blog is in English. The fact that a minister already willing to open up to its people is already a breakthrough. Posting in English is also wise because it reaches a far wider audience.
It forces us to practice our skill of this global language too.
Indeed a bilingual blog would be even better, but if not possible (yet), then it’s already very good as it is.
Please keep it up, thanks.
Many thanks for all comments, criticisms and suggestions, to which I cannot respond individually. I will try from time to time to post in Indonesian, but will focus mainly in English to reach wider personal audience with non-Indonesian nationals who may care to share their views and counter arguments about what I feel about particular issues.
Hi P. Juwono,
to me it is ok, to use english, anyway we as Indonesian must learn & improve our english skill 🙂
and you are right, we have to use english to reach more wider audience. especially those who have power and keen to help Indonesia. not only come to exploit our country.
May the power of awareness & Courage always be with you forever.
Indonesia Jaya!
I sense that it would be difficult asking Islam fundamentalists to discuss anything other than Al Quran.
Presumably, Pancasila is something that is outside their interests.
Pak Juwono Yang terhormat, saya berpendapat bahwa kita ini terlalu disibukkan oleh pancasila, apa kandungannya, apakah masih bisa dipakai sampai saat ini. Tapi tanpa di tuangkan keatas kerja yang nyata. Menjadikan kebingungan apakah kita masih dalam pancasila atau tidak.
Pendapat saya adalah kita tak perlu pusing-pusing memikirkan Pancasila. Mau condong ke sosialis atau ke liberalis yang penting kita bisa memajukan bangsa ini baik secara mental maupun material. Jalannya bisa kita dapatkan baik dari pancasila itu sendiri maupun dari ideologi-ideologi lainnya.
Atau kita membuat sebuah ‘kesimpulan’ baru untuk menjalankan kehidupan bernegara kita. Kita tak perlu memikirkan teorinya, tapi prakteknya. Dengan berjalan di prakteknya kita bisa sambil mempelajai teorinya.
Salute!
semoga bapak diberi kekuatan olehNYA agar dapat berkarya demi menjaga kehormatan Ibu Pertiwi dari tangan-tangan jahat yang hendak menodainya.
Bhinneka Tunggal Ika forever!
That’s why many people keep on stay behind. We always make arguments and debates which don’t have to. Forgetting about the country’s founder, nation’s spirit, and historical background.